Roadking - Pedal order

[rayden44]

Roadking seems to have a pedal board of envy so this is a query for him, but if somebody else wants to weigh in that's all good. BTW I looked at your setup... Do you actually have a wah pedal, or is that a volume pedal? If you don't have one, what is wrong with you all those other pedals and no wah? lol

Anyway I've read that in my pedal order I should basically go (at least to try first)

Guitar -> Phase Shifters (Wah / Phaser) -> Compressor -> OD / Distortion -> Pitch Shifters / Flangers -> Delays -> Amp

Or I'm also thinking possibly move the phase shifter after the OD / Dist bit.

Guitar -> Wah -> Compressor -> OD / Distortion -> Phase Shifters / Pitch Shifters / Flangers -> Delays -> Amp

It's experiment time tonight for me but do you have any preference in how you organise your board?

[rayden44]

hoped he might have posted while I was noodling downstairs on my setup Ok here's what I'm playing with for my pedal setup, this is a bit of a departure from the guitar into amp setup that I'm used to, but as I've said before I'm pushing myself into it

OLD Setup for recording yesterday:

Guitar -> Morley Wah Pro Series II (among the best wah's I've heard and I don't use it nearly enough) -> Vox Ice 9 -> Amp

New Setup I'm going to try (hold your breath folks)

Guitar -> Behringer PH9 -> Behringer UP100 -> Morley Wah Pro Series II -> Behringer DC9 -> Vox Ice 9 -> Electro Harmonix Memory Boy -> Amp

Just a bit of a rundown of the new guys in here.

Behringer PH9 - a 90 degree phaser. Provides a light treble-y phaser sound. looks like a better construction pedal than some of the other Behringer ones I nabbed. Set to Swirl mode and sounds awesome.

Behringer UP100 - Ultra Phaser gives a much deeper bass-y phaser sound. I initially figured the pedal was busted as you have to turn the phaser rate and depth very high to get a noticeable phase sound even on its own, then tweak very gradually. Sound is good so it can stay

Behringer Comp DC9
From what I've read a take on the MXR Dyna Comp, and this is a very good compressor. Doesn't clip out and start sounding crap like my Line 6 Constrictor did. Wind Cries Mary is again my staple song to try and test this with and it brings out the hammer ons and gives some very nice tones. This is also in the better construction style

Electro Harmonix Memory Boy
Ok this sucker takes a bit of working out to actually figure what it's doing. I did have to get the manual heh Since it's doing vibrato/chorus and delay all in one (and I should mention all at once) plus you have control over effected and not effected signal, it confused me initially. You have to basically blend in and out what you do or don't want, which gives you almost too much control. Once I'd figured that out, well a beautiful almost Leslie style sound was emitted from this wee box. Very nice for Riviera Paradise which is where I went straight away

Pedals I got but just can't put anywhere yet

Behringer CS400 Compressor - I got this incase I wasn't happy with the DC9 - It can have a good home
Behringer US600 Shifter - ugh... I think I'll give up finding a cheap pitch shifter..... This is another complicated pedal though, so I'll probably try and have a more thorough play on the weekend. Initial impression - single note wise you're ok, but it still warbles a little. two notes isn't too bad. play anything beyond that and all goes to crap. I may still use it as a detune or tremolo effect or something....

[rayden44]

I should mention, aside from the US600 which cost me just under $45 dollars, and the memory boy at $120, the other new pedals were under $25 a pop.

[lesblues]

May 24, 2011 4:16:06 GMT -5 rayden44 said:

Once I'd figured that out, well a beautiful almost Leslie style sound was emitted from this wee box.

And I had no idea I had any style at all. ;D ;D

[rayden44]

bet you didn't know you were a spinning speaker system either I will demo this funky lot on the weekend btw

[lesblues]

May 24, 2011 16:20:14 GMT -5 rayden44 said:

bet you didn't know you were a spinning speaker system either

Nope, that came as a complete surprise to me.

[rayden44]

Just a quick update on the Behringer US600. The warbling effect is more noticeable when you pitch shift upwards. Shifting downwards is pretty much fine. I played around with shifting an octave down with the band on Sunday, seeing if I could do something emulating 12 string, and it came out ok so I might leave it in for now.

The other update I have is yes I now need a pedal power supply lol Arg the vicious cycle! Given the more complicated FX like the memory boy and the shifter gobbles batteries very quickly, and the memory boy has to be dismantled to access the battery compartment, 9V batteries aren't really gonna cut it

[469roadking]

Sorry dude, been gone for a while. Finished up our recording project last night.

[469roadking]

Sounds like you have the pedal order under control.

You're right about the wah I'm in the market now it appears. I'll check out the Morley. It's one I've never tried before.

Phase shifter before OD's? You bet!! It's a very untraditional placement but I've used it before and it gives some cool tonal differences.

[rayden44]

Just reminded me of something. During band on Sunday I turned on both phasers, and then jumped on the wah. What a sound that created! I don't use the wah in a traditional 'rock in and out on the beat' kinda way, I use it more to add expression (can't pat my head and rub my belly either!)

I will work on the placement of the 90 degree phaser. On my own I can hear it, but over the band it really gets lost. Might move it after the wah as the wah does have a bit of a volume boost to it. I was also aiming my amp at the wall of the studio on Sunday (a Roy Buchanan trick if I remember) which was a bit different. Being a sound absorbing wall probably not the best idea, but it keeps the singer sane

Just arrived on the courier today for me is a Godlyke Power-all kit. 11 Plugs of happy 9V power for my pedals. Hopefully this will do the business